hey everybody welcome back to hustle is
for life motivation I am too long and I have a awesome show for you guys today
I have somebody who is absolutely incredible joining me today his name is
Jonathan Herbert and he's 10 just some really amazing stuff he's been earning
millions of dollars in his family business he then moved on and did a lot
of work with affiliates and joint ventures and at the moment he's working
on multiple different projects which is just incredible and I am literally can't
wait to dive into this conversation because he has a lot of value to add to
us it talks a lot about finding your purpose he talks about you know living
in alignment he talks about how you need to form connections and add value to
others and take care of the people around you and come from a place of
giving which is everything that I believe in and this show stands for so
he is the perfect fit so with that please help me welcome mr.

Herbert Jonathan could yagi hey brother it's a pleasure to have you on brother
so we've been talking before we jumped on and actually started recording this
thing and it's just incredible the conversation went in lots of different
places and you were just generally you know trying to learn more about me just
the way I was trying to learn about you and it was really great to see somebody
who wanted to add value and connect but I am really curious to know as I am sure
the audiences as well what is it got you started down this path and what is your
journey been like so far you time originally or within the last few years
well let's let's talk about let's talk about the last few years and then if you
want to go deeper then obviously we can go all the way back oh yeah yeah no no
worries no worries um five years ago I was at a moment in my life where
everything I thought was amazing and really cool and special just came
crashing down around and it wasn't that it really looked at way
on the outs from the people room the outside of me but entirely I was looking
at the world around me differently and I had really just forced myself out of the
world that I've been living to that point which was connecting and joint
ventures and hooking people up and doing really big deals hmm
and a couple of deals I did didn't pan out and I literally I think a ego got in
the way but be one of the experiences was big enough that I just didn't want
to be involved in any of this anymore no joint ventures no connecting no talking
to people I literally drew away from my friends there's one friend I really hung
out with after that and everyone else I just kind of pulled away from it wasn't
their fault nothing they did wrong it was just me really having to losing my
losing my spirit my drive to go anywhere I could something I felt like this cave
went over my head and I'm in this cave and and there's not even not like a
capture it's like screwed on so it's like dark everywhere around me
and that had that happened to me and it took about three years until a couple
friends of mine invited me to an event named Brian finale and Todd Sloane where
they own a company called my lead system Pro and they are in the network
marketing side of the world which is not a world that I'm in Dahl I dive in
myself but they're still good friends they live here locally in Austin just
know givers completely and they invited me to their event called living the
dream that they do once a year here in Austin and they specific purpose for
inviting me was that they knew where I was before and they'd seen where it's
gone and they really truly had his ire for me to go there and if anything if I
showed up just to even show up at the last speaker of the last day they gave
me a VIP access to everything but just said we just want you to show up to this
and show up anything so I did I came to this came to the event and the speaker
at the last show at the last day his name was dr.

Joe Dispenza
and dr. Joe Dispenza was actually featured a movie way back in the day
called what the bleep do we know hmm and Joe Dispenza what he did is he actually
chose you for about an hour using a PowerPoint to show you images of your
brain and the neurons and how that all works and how it actually is all
impacted by your thoughts in your mind and how that actually creates what the
reality is in your brain and you see that which which then ripples into the
reality you see around you and then he proceeded to take us through a 45-minute
long meditation and in that 45 minute long meditation it was a visual
meditation and as I was going through the meditation I started to feel hire
and fire my spirit started going out more and more and then by the time was
over I felt high as a kite even though I wasn't
drinking I wouldn't it just felt like so excited and invigorated and in that
moment but I mean it doesn't take a decision to do two things one is the to
find his stuff inaudible which I did for like seven dollars and fifty cents for
one of his meditational walk throughs this was I am placebo and there's like
two versions and I just took the shorter version and then the other thing was I
decided that I need to work out once a week not work out with me I need to
start working out regularly because at that moment I thought shit if I didn't
feel as good from one what if I met minutes with dr.

Joe Dispenza here in a
room full of all these other people what can I do if I started meditating it was
everybody do that every day for a hundred days and started working out
regularly mmm in order for me to work out rightly cuz I was lazy and I am
still lazy inherently when I can be um I hit up a friend of mine who I knew would
keep me accountable and who had actually been inviting me to go work out with him
for like the last eight years he's a buddy of mine who I've known for about
ten years and about eight years ago he started a company called Six Pack
Shortcuts and his name is Daniel rose and I hit
him up and he was like whatever do you wanna work out and so it took me about
three weeks of having him and finds like Brian man we'll do this and we'll do it
on Tuesday night it was like cool so I drove up to his offices he has his own
private gym there and we started working out and two years later I'm still
working out with them every week the benefits of that is the consistency of
the workout which means that if I do not continue to work out throughout the rest
of the week that the next time I see Dad I'm gonna go through such hell
in that workout three days barely be able to walk and my wife's gonna be
making fun of me so it's better and making funny mainly
because she knows that I should have made better choices Ralph last week um
so it's about 100 days after meditating I suddenly had this Epiphany
I came out of visual meditation remembered I was sitting in my gym
parking lot actually and suddenly it hit me I was like I know
what my purpose is at this very moment and one is that I okay for the first
time my life worked for anybody else number two I want to thrive not just
survive have a family have a three old daughter at that times my daughter was
like a year old I you know I went through I'm not just survived and then
the other one was that I want to work on something bigger than myself where the
money wasn't the objective it may be the objective in that specific project but
the overall goal was in a much more of a higher level and three days later a good
friend of mine reached out to me and named Fred lamb and he said hey dude I
have an econ company that's actually a software driven educational company
based on my years doing econ and so I have all these affiliates on board I
want to know if you don't want to come on board and just imagine for me when go
from there and I was like it was almost like a sign it was like so in sync
because until three days before I wasn't having people hitting me up left and
right because I'd pulled away so long that when he did I was like oh my god it
was just such a it was it was like a confirmation you know anytime you
anything happens where it's like you know I've seen serendipitous eyes like
it was a confirmation that you're on the right track you know I mean because it's
like it's like where the stars are aligning and that's supposed to be and
so I started working for Fred and did a Philly management for him for about a
year and a year and a half or here in two months or in three months and then
he went on to do branding play and I went on to find new offers out there
that actually fit a specific rule which is a whatever it is it's got a benefit
the end users be it's got to have a lot of future potential and where else can
build out and how it can grow see it's I've got to actually convert
you know you can't just put an offer out there and not convert if you're ever
having Aubree gonna put out there it doesn't convert you're just going your
reputation in the matter that may not be the best for you so I would highly
suggest you ask the person to do a test for you first and even offer them to pay
that ask them a ask them hey what would it be what would it be
what's your what are you happy with when you promote a product but what kind of
click EPC once you find that out say okay can you send a portion of your
lists and if you don't hit that EBC I'll make up the difference to you in cash
but if it does beat that EPC then just promise me you're gonna hit the rest of
the list so now you've taken the risk away plus
you're offering them something to reward them for working with you and plus
you're testing out your offer with a smaller list so so what I'm showing for
is so so opera's gotta convert and then it's for me personally I like offers
they convert in every niche or one offer that converts cross niche not just one
specific miss because the pool and playing field in one niche is so small
compared to as a connector and as a person who talks to people and really
you know once that you know grow the world around in connection it's much
simpler for me to talk to people in all different sectors now the other thing I
started doing this year too was is that I meet with really cool unique talented
people about once a week whether it's for coffee or whether it's on the phone
and I and when I talk to my mic hey look I want to meet with you but I also want
to set this up as a weekly thing and here's why because I fight and if some
of these people have nothing to do with what I do they're successful another way
they could have huge viewership on YouTube where they could have you know a
Matt they can be a master tribe builder you know the or they could be an amazing
connector like or they they have a freaking event planning company that has
a software that's created such an understanding of their all their leads
that they can find anomalies behind who's who and where where they are
connected with big fortune 500 companies and that's what they work with on a
regular basis of consultation but I mean with these people
and we talked for about an hour or so it's more purchases than the share with
me what's going on with them and and either me sharing my insights or me
sharing with them what's going out with me and then they're sharing their
insights what it does more than anything it helps me create more it restructures
my critical thinking in my brain which opens up a lot more opportunity in this
world for everything I'm working on currently because have you ever learned
that if you're have you ever learned or figured out that you probably have your
best ideas in the shower not why you're working on what you're working on well
this is just a way to do that same process I'm not sharing with still a
great way to tap into that bigger consciousness that we're all part of in
my opinion and when you tap in that bigger consciousness that's outside the
regular thinking that you rather run on suddenly you're open up yourself up to a
much more altered state of reality that that you're more shaping around you
based on who you surround yourself with I used to think that some of who you
surround yourself with that bullshit but now I realize it's not it's not
really the sum of who you surround yourself with it's what kind of quality
time you're spending with those you're surrounding yourself with just like it's
not about who you know it's about who knows you and how do they know you and
what do they say about you behind your back yeah yeah
absolutely agree with everything you said there Jonathan and I think you
touch upon so many amazing things and I want to go down you know some of those
nah burn holes with you cuz I think you've got some really amazing insights
to share on those things the first one was obviously losing your purpose I mean
you were walking in your family business really successful stuff went south and
you cannot lost that purpose that passion and then you went to a journey
essentially to rediscover that and for a lot of people are there I think they can
relate because either there's somebody who have also lost their purpose or
they're just searching for it in the first place
and I'm learning if you have any advice for people for those people on what they
can do what what is it that will help them either we discover their passion
and purpose or maybe just find it in the first place if they never found it
before you know based on your own personal experience of course
simple get the hell out of your comfort zone mmm
when I got really comfortable walling in my crap it was mainly my biggest issue
was I was not doing anything different that day that I did the debut before
once I started doing like meditation was not easy for me by the way I have a TDI
my brains all over the place now you're asking look I'm making myself commit to
40 minutes every day of my you know meditation it was not an easy process –
it was a challenge and that's the point is that well I also during that five
years when I was away from breeding that three years before I made it a pivotal
changed my life that allowed me to receive purpose I wasn't um I wasn't
doing anything like literally I wasn't doing anything
different so like I said like the meditation was one thing and the other
thing was working out for me that was what worked for me but each person is
different – it's more about maybe imagining okay what things could I do
what if I were to just test it out for 30 days or for a month or two what
specific things could I do that I wouldn't be comfortable doing but I know
they before my betterment hmm okay when I go back is that three years
I'd do anything I literally forgot how to connect with people seriously
once I started making a point that I talked to like okay I meet people
regularly everything play and make it a point talked about four to five people a
day because that rehab with me shape and relearn stuff I let go of because you
will forget if you don't do stuff repetitively well at the same time you
will never get out of where you are unless something clicks up up here or
your environment crazily shifts rightly shifts and so that's let's say beautiful
yeah beautiful and ladies and gentlemen seriously what Jonathan has said there
was just pillow gold and I want to drive that home because seriously he talked
about breaking your normal frames of reference and exposing yourself to new
experiences and new environments which allows
to essentially get out of your comfort zone and either rediscover what is it
that you are supposed to be living your life booking your life for and also
maybe find in the first place if you'd never find your passion before and he
also talked about connecting with people right and learning from them because
guess what when you are in the company of other amazing people
it changes the filter through which you see the world and that's something
obviously Jonathan shared as well and I just want to drive that home it's just
so powerful Jonathan let's go down that rabbit hole with you know connect with
people forming relationship and networking obviously you are a very very
successful you know networker you have built
relationships with very amazing people if you talked about the fact that it
allowed you to get out of your normal frame of reference and you know almost
get a different state of mind where you could see the world differently how
powerful has that been for you and do you have any advice for people who are
not sure how they can start connecting with other people they are just hanging
around with the same you know a few family members the same old friends what
can they do to start connecting with new people well there's something called
meetup calm calm is just a place to go to to find out every kind of group get
together a gathering based on your specific interests because here's the
thing is everyone and I think what's great about meetup calm is that it's a
great place to find other people who share a passion no matter what your from
your background if it's more of your you're in the online world you're trying
to make money or whatever else look for people that share that passion and
usually it's finding groups that have a meet-up on a monthly basis because going
to those allows you to then get to know people you've never known before but
also you know what I make it the point to do specifically if I've never been to
a place is introduce myself mark of the people which is the most fun couple will
see the world for most people to do yeah anybody know who it is you can't just
judge a person on their appearance just walk up to him say who you are and say
hey you know I can not here because I really wanted to get
to know more people who are on this line because of this is this be open and
genuine most people are afraid to be open and genuine to put their sorry they
put their best foot forward but they don't put their real foot forward unless
you are when you speak to somebody the more likely you are to create a less of
a connection that you could have and in this work we're gonna have time to waste
on having a whole bunch of friends who just think they know if there's
something you know and so with the with meetup.com would be the way that I would
say is probably the fastest way you start connect with the other places you
know I I don't do a lot of social media myself I'm really guilty I go on a
Facebook like once a week I find that you interaction on Facebook isn't my
greatest play so I mainly go to events or I go meet with people so when I go to
events like so for example you go to a meet-up you meet somebody cool say hey I
start a new habit and it is to meet with a person that's outside of my route what
they're doing but just someone that age I would like a job I would you and I
just like the movie once a week for coffee or something like that and we
just can't talk either sharing what's going on your work and vice versa and
start with one eventually if you meet with them enough they may be like hey I
know somebody else like you can always say hey you know other people that would
be good for me to talk with so it's so you're doing that same thing with them
but the first thing I'd say before anything else is even as your game you
know them make it a point to find out if there's anything that you hear from them
or any cheer they give you that there's a way you can help them because here's
the thing there's nothing worse than my finish a conversation with somebody and
they're like oh just tell me anytime that you can tell me anything I can do
for you and have a great day that's like so on genuine because look if you can't
think in your own head about how you can help me and see where your vision is
aligned with mine and basically say okay this is what I see I can help you and
here's how then you're not really genuinely worried about who that person
is or what they're about you're just trying to get across and spit out where
it is you want to say in my opinion hmm I'm pretty direct so
if you if you've known me you know me they'd be that way but yeah so make it a
point together and make it a point about making it about them and you'll know if
they're about themselves or if they're also giving two very quick it's easy to
filter through and figure out who's just takers and who's also go givers and it
may take a meeting or two or three or four to know that but eventually you're
going to know what type of person that is and if they become if they're a giver
as well holy crap now you expanded your reality by two as
far as what can be done or reached in this world even and for me the other
reason I do these weekly means with people is that now I'm finding these
amazing people are doing these great things if I don't hold myself
accountable to make sure I freaking and stellar that whole week and what I'm
doing no matter what task is that I know what that at the end of the day I'm
going to talk to them again and my mind not be right where there's is and it's
it's there's just something psychologically inspiring and exciting
about riding on that train with other like-minded people hmm by doing that I
strove to do better not to just stay and what I thought was a comfortable space
I've just shifted and they made this thing that wasn't comfortable before my
new comfortable space because it's working for me yeah yeah absolutely
absolutely and this this channel is all about creating holistic success in all
areas of your life and what you shared there is obviously really really
powerful and essentially it's the strategy that people can start
implementing today to go and start connecting with new people and spawn
relationships and you know just the way you know when we jumped on civility you
know we were asking questions very similar question future that I in terms
of what are you talk you know what are you working on right now what's your
main challenges for you excited about what are you main goals for 2018 and
those are all amazing questions that you know the audience can go and use with
the people they connect with for the first time to just break the ice and
start a conversation and also it gives you a chance by asking those questions
to learn what they are working on and find a way to help them and you know see
if you can you can she'd go ahead and take this
relationship father so really really powerful stuff I think you also learned
what kind of a person their character that person is mmm like when you talk
when I asked you what you did and how you do it as you were explained to me
the way you connect with people and the things you do with people I felt like
you're talking exactly the way that I do it so I just felt that like direct
alignment very quickly and that's the thing is you won't run across people all
the time they're that way but you're gonna run across the certain level of
like like energy or something like that you know yeah yeah awesome
awesome and Jonathan the other thing too mentioned there was meditation and what
a profound effect its had in your life and I absolutely believed in having you
know daily rituals daily habits and you talked about two of them one is
obviously working out and the other one is meditation now the crazy thing is
that you know pretty much 90% of the guests that have come on may be even
more that I've interviewed on the channel they always talk about those
things I mean they talk about other things as well that they have in terms
of their habits and daily rituals but definitely those two things like they do
they have you know a workout routine and they meditate pretty much every single
day so it's really really amazing and I'm just wondering what's your
experience been like with meditation I know you said it's not been easy for you
to you know start meditation and lots of people find that but how do you think it
affected you and how do they help you to perform at high level what well I
meditate I'm suddenly taking myself away from the world around me where there's
the TV the camera the phone all our distractions right the lights even and
I'm pushing that all away to a go to a private space of just nothingness where
the training is almost like it's like it's almost like I'm defragmenting my
brain yeah it's like hitting a reboot like you know buddy reboot your computer
it's like that I might irregularly as well so I know
exactly where you're coming from yes and so doing that in the morning then makes
it that all those things were going off my mind the night before because we
always internal chatter I'm sure some more than others but this just kicks
that chatter out of there so that like and I
I don't meditate every day anymore I meditate more once every like three or
four days and it's more based on what I've got coming up because I found that
navigation something and I know it's a good daily routine I'm not perfect at
that daily routine yet after the first hundred days it's every day in the road
doing it what I am great at now is realizing when to do it yeah it's
working for me and I find any time I got it big going on a ton got me with
somebody anytime I've got something going on that is gonna require a little
a lot of mental focus the best favor I can do for myself as a meditate
beforehand because then when I face that thing I don't have any of the other
stuff that's probably been piling up in my head and suddenly everything feels
easy to just move forward and push on that specific task because I don't feel
like I have all this other stuff trying to crush against me that I have to do as
well yeah yeah so but there is a habit I did do every night with my wife and that
is at 6:30 at night actually my wife and I rotate every
night who makes dinner so it's 3:00 at night we used to the table with our
daughter to have dinner our three-year-old daughter have dinner
every night of the week no matter what's going on awesome awesome I love top I
love that every day I take about three hours between my daughter getting home
from school on time the seals down dedicate this with her because that
that's time you're never gonna get back it's also a great chance to learn how to
be patient the great dad when you're not you know feel a lot of things your
parents felt before that you didn't know and figure out a kid yeah yeah yeah I've
never loved anything more in my life and I never thought I could and I I can't
watch movies that have anything bad having the kids
Oh sad I can't go into that process yeah anyway yeah so so that's probably my
that's like the top daily habit and I'm working out but even then working out I
find is a form of meditation mmm yeah yeah because you're essentially zoning
out right like you're going into it you're disowning out and that's that's
human focus just work you're focusing on you walk out and everything else just
you know goes into the background and essentially that's what meditation does
for you for people who've never tried it I'll highly encourage you to go ahead
and do it because it really helps you essentially just hit the reboot button
right so you come back to Ground Zero and then that's a chance for you to then
build up and go ahead and talk a lot of things but definitely that internal
chatter and you know that stress that you were having all the tension that
been built up it all comes down to zero and then you you can assembly start
afresh if you ever have a lot of stuff in your
head that you've got to work out take a walk for an hour you literally come out
of it with a lot of solutions and realizations that you never would had
have you been seeing there with all the distractions around dad
he walks five miles an hour and takes an hour and fifty minutes of walk nine
miles each day and he's 71 I can't but his mental clarity is insane hmm I can't
walk to an hour to happen two hours myself every day but an hour I do I do
have a puppy so I take about three mile walk almost every night mmm that's
another form of getting it out of your brain and doing something that allows
you to really let go the world around you and just really become senator Phil
awesome awesome I love it right Jonathan just very briefly um kind
of conscious of your time you obviously do a lot of work with joint ventures and
affiliates and you help entrepreneurs you know build their businesses and
things like that I'm wondering if you can share some of the insights from your
experiences with working with entrepreneurs in so many different sort
of situations with and you know affiliate programs in terms
of what are some of the best practices that people really need to be employing
in order to make sure that their JV ventures and their actual affiliate
programs are successful mine is all said one promoting that you get you find out
their best form of communication email from somebody look at how big the email
is or shorter is and then try to mimic when you reply to keep it in that same
space a lot of people they put way too much information then do it and by doing
that they're not just keeping the key data spots that you need to know about
and so of course we comes over when we're gonna read the whole thing hmm
but yeah just communication is key making sure that you have a system set
up every set of the way ahead of time for any affiliate you deal with so you
can actually follow that system in checklist as you get along those imports
whether it's somebody to promote your product and you are you the next step is
a make sure that they are signed up as an affiliate program there then from
there getting their coffee getting what they need being their picker bio
depending if it's a webinar it's more about doing more up front as much as you
can up front to prepare for that day that deal happens so that a you're
giving a great sense of professionalism and be you know in the end if there that
everything works out that's how they're gonna remember you hmm remember your
actions as doing joint ventures or connect or whatnot or in all your
remembered on your actions not in your words yeah yeah sure so yeah just
peterward and and be on par with people and I have a good friend of mine there's
a doer she's just so amazing what she does and she's just you know a big crate
great in the network you know and partner with people that you know and
partner people the only way she got all those opportunities is because she did
joint ventures in a manner that she was like always on top I mean it would call
her leg in the middle night as she danced right I know that's drastic but
bigger affiliates in their handheld they can't be a trade like you you got to
treat everyone just like you would want to be treated
and things will work out really well yeah that's all I have I mean mmm but
definitely it's it's it's very powerful and you obviously talked about you know
before that you worked with uh you know a company who really looked after their
affiliates and that was something that was it you know a tick box for you to work with anybody hmm three things one
is if they're opera converts to that the product has social but that product
actually works for its customers who apply it and use it and then see that
they take care of their affiliates so that you know if an affiliate promotes I
like to work with affiliates and help them promote their products that pay
within three or four days instead of waiting third left standard 30 days or
where if they owe to pay for their they have to hold back so much percent I like
people who have their shit together there's a business yeah also fine if
you're a product owner out there he's looking for affiliates that's a great
way incentive eyes somebody to promote now rather than wait and promote some
other offer but it also states that you have a real business where you're not
depending on that money to come in so you can pay your bills and hopefully
have enough left over to take care of those that you're terribly yeah you just
puts off a whole different sign so yeah if if anything you choose to do in this
world make sure that whatever it is it benefits the end user telling you if it
doesn't your your soul and your heart will be crushed mmm I'm just just saying
twists of course of course yeah no you're absolutely awesome well guys this
has been a phenomenal conversation I'm aware of Johnson times because obviously
we booked this call for an hour and so I apologize for that but Jonathan where
can people go to find out more about you and how can they help you um well if you
want to find out more about me I don't really have a space for you to go to
other than telling you that if you want to talk sometime or if you feel
alignment just send me an email my email is connect
we connect with the letter U and then 0 0 1 @ gmail.com ok you know and because
I like to connect with cool people who are doing really cool stuff but also you
know plug in the people I imagine a lot of people are watching this just have a
very wide mmm yeah yeah and Whoopie he's connect and see where I can help you I
don't really know how I can help someone specifically as much as I know that if
we talk we have a good alignment in our conversation then it's a lot easier for
me to help me see their their their need or that what they're doing from from the
perspective of looking at my network to their eyes which makes a lot simpler to
uh figure that out so yeah also people can help me with right now uh anybody
who's anybody who's ok anybody who is looking for proven ographers the
promotes I have an offer that really what does well that's all I'm saying and
it converts cross that unity niche you have have something or you have a big
list you want to get paid very quickly and those kind of turns of three days
after promo and you want to know that it benefits the end user and it has more
than enough social proof then hit me up I've been more than happy to plug you
into this because you know the biggest problem a lot of people have is either
they wouldn't ever want to promote their offer or they don't know what to promote
because there's just so much crap out there and you don't have a you don't
know how to sift through the noise so yeah cool awesome well there you have it
guys are amazing conversations with Jonathan Hubbard he came on he added so
much value and he had some amazing insights and this conversation was just
really truly inspirational seriously like there was so much stuff that I
picked on in terms of you know creating holistic success that Johnson talked
about in terms exposing yourself to different environments you know breaking
your normal points of reference making sure that you connect with new people
people who are not even in your niche people who are working on different
things are successful in those things people who are go givers and forming
relations have been getting know them and the power of meditation
and daily habits you know working out making sure you take care of your body
and your mind and making sure that you constantly grow and you reach out and
get out of your comfort zone right like like we're all lazy including me
right so it's important that we push ourselves challenge ourselves to go out
of our comfort zone and guess what this is now the second quarter of 2018 what
have you done to get out of your comfort zone that's what question for you
comment below and tell us what have you done so far in 2018 to get out of your
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encourage you to reach out to Jonathan because he is absolutely awesome he's
very giving very open and guess what he just added a ton of value to us and I'm
sure that if you start a conversation with Jonathan you will only get more
value so with that Jonathan thank you so much for being here
it was awesome to have you on thank you cool all right guys take care hustle
hard and I will be catching you in the next one

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